0:14 hello and welcome to another episode of live love by design TV I’m Karen Chaston
0:21 the founder of live love by design and the host and executive producer of this
0:25 amazing TV show and today we have another amazing episode for you
0:32 I have Julie Kay with us today who is a spiritual profiler and a
0:38 self-empowerment mentor sounds very exciting doesn’t it do you even know
0:44 what a spiritual profiler is well I can tell you right now you will by the end
0:50 of the show so welcome Julie hi Karen great to be here and thank you so much
0:56 for having me yes I’m so excited about it
1:00 so come on spiritual profiler let’s what is that okay so a spiritual profiler
1:07 helps people delve deep within to look at their emotional and spiritual
1:12 profile so basically the hidden patterns that we all have and that get in the way
1:20 of us being happy so they are quiet they are quite often hidden because that’s
1:26 what we’re here to learn and it’s the emotional pattern that we carry
1:29 throughout our lifetime and so once we identify what that is we can start to
1:36 change how we perceive the world because we’re looking at our world through our
1:41 own emotional filter and that you know that’s different for everyone and we see
1:47 things differently through this emotional filter so when we know that it
1:51 yep yeah yep so so is it a pattern that we have just developed in this lifetime
2:00 like from the time we were born or can it be from previous lifetimes and I know
2:05 a lot of our viewers don’t believe in pray in past lives but let’s just go
2:10 with it for now okay so I believe that it’s mainly for this lifetime we we
2:16 actually choose what we’re here to learn and yes I believe mainly this lifetime
2:21 but we can all so be repeating that from a previous
2:25 lifetime as well so when we choose what we want to learn in this lifetime could
2:31 it be something that we didn’t do very well in a previous lifetime so we’re
2:36 like okay we’ve sort of got this down pat we’ve got this down pat so but maybe
2:41 this time we need to learn this because we’ve struggled with this previously yes
2:47 and it’s it’s a lot deeper than that Karen like we it isn’t just this
2:52 lifetime and this lifetime is not just connected to us we have soul agreements
2:57 with everyone in our lifetime and we also you know part of a much bigger
3:02 picture so it’s not just as simple as you know you’re coming here to learn
3:07 this yep and that’s all there is to it is that you’re coming here to evolve
3:12 your self and have a massive growth in your learning in your spiritual
3:17 evolution but in that you will also help those around you and you will also help
3:23 the you know the earth plane and the bigger picture evolve as well I love
3:27 that and I totally agree with all of that and it’s really good to actually
3:31 understand that we do have soul agreements with a lot of people in our
3:34 lives and if they’re annoying you or doing things that aren’t in your highest
3:41 interest maybe it is so that you can grow absolutely we have relationships or
3:48 my belief is that we have relationships we have this physical body and we have
3:53 relationships in this lifetime purely to help each other grow if someone’s
3:58 pushing your buttons when you start looking at spiritual profiling and you
4:01 start to understand and you know delve back into that button-pushing you’ll see
4:07 that there is actually something that you’re meant to learn out of that so
4:11 it’s not just as interest you know as easy as saying see you later I don’t
4:14 want anything to do with you anymore because that will just repeat in the
4:18 next person I totally agree and it does a lot of the times you can see people
4:23 you know dating the same person okay physically they look different but
4:27 they’re exactly the same and it’s like and I’m a great believer and it take
4:32 me a little take me a little while to actually understand this concept is that
4:36 everything is about yourself so if people are pushing your buttons it’s
4:40 about let’s go inside let’s figure out what I need to learn here where I need
4:45 to go and and maybe what I need to heal that’s right well if you know a button
4:50 is being pushed in us it’s saying there is something to change and grow or there
4:56 wouldn’t be a button for anyone to push yes I like that yes as we’re sorry Karen
5:02 as we evolved that button pushing you know that we used to experience
5:07 previously when you evolve that when you evolve that within yourself it’s just
5:12 like water off a duck’s back it no longer exists or it exists to a lesser
5:16 degree for sure I totally get that and it’s actually just by the way you were
5:20 saying pushing the button I visualized like a a crossroad you know to press the
5:27 button to go to get the green light to go you’ve got the stop there and it’s
5:31 about realizing what is stopping me what what is sort of coming up to me that
5:36 stopping me moving forward and stopping me getting over these things that are
5:40 triggering me that’s correct and the emotional pattern will be the same there
5:45 is you know with our spiritual profile we have this emotional pattern emotional
5:50 filter so it and it will be the same but it can definitely come up in different
5:55 you know it we can experience that in different ways but just it doesn’t
6:00 matter whether it’s a relationship or whether it’s you not being confident
6:03 within yourself that emotional pattern will still be the
6:07 same and so it’s really spiritual profiling helps you identify what is
6:12 your pattern what how are you perceiving the world what is getting in your way
6:16 okay great now because of the live love four pillars that I love to go through
6:22 when I’m discussing with people which are all about you all about your
6:26 relationships all about your expertise and all about your wealth creation I
6:30 want to come back to all about you now I’m pretty sure that you were not born
6:36 with this awareness so until you gathered it as you sort of have come to
6:42 who you are today so tell us a little bit about young Julie let’s go back
6:48 to who you were as a child just briefly well I was lucky enough to always you
6:57 know have this spiritual knowing behind me and I can remember arguing with my
7:03 mother when I was about it was before 10 and saying you know where was
7:08 i before I was here and she couldn’t give me the answers and just like we
7:11 told most of our children to run away and play yes but I was actually wasn’t a
7:16 very confident person I totally had you know to be in front of people would
7:23 never have been something that I would have thought that I would have been able
7:26 to do I suffered a lot from anxiety and you know and also socially like I was
7:33 would hide myself away socially as well Oh really yes and I also experienced like I
7:41 was actually abused as a younger person as well so I did experience sexual abuse
7:45 thankfully mine wasn’t as bad as well a lot of people go through yes
7:50 but hey any sort is very traumatic yeah absolutely so it you know I had to also
7:57 heal myself from that so yeah I definitely like a lot of people
8:02 struggled in my younger days with my confidence and self-belief did you
8:06 struggle with your spiritual awareness that you had discussing it with other
8:12 people oh yeah absolutely and my parents thought that you know it was just my
8:18 imagination and not not because they were trying to put me down but mainly
8:22 because of a lack of understanding it wasn’t in our family it wasn’t you know
8:27 our belief but my parents were Catholic so it wasn’t in our our belief system so
8:33 of course it was just put to the side as my imagination and you know that even
8:38 set up a bit of my emotional yes as in you know getting people to believe and
8:45 understand me for who I am so when did you start to develop it more and then
8:53 start to be open about discussing this and obviously creating a business around
8:58 it yep so I started back when my children were little
9:02 with all my son it was actually just before he was born he was – he’s now 27
9:07 so I was always sort of you know in the background doing little courses and
9:13 going to little meditation groups and stuff and then I just you know about 27
9:17 I decided not this is Who I am I’m going to start this journey that’s
9:22 really interesting at 27 because yes we’re of the oh I can’t even think about
9:28 that’s when Saturn returns yes somewhere between 28 and 30 I believe that is yeah
9:34 absolutely and if you look at spiritual profiling we’re not actually ready or
9:39 really ready to look at our stuff before then so you know we are coming through
9:45 with a lot of old souls now and a lot of high vibrations so there are of course
9:49 the exceptions but the majority and definitely our generation we weren’t
9:54 even really ready to look at our stuff before the age of 30 or somewhere before
9:58 the age thank you for putting me in the same generation as you as I’m probably the generation before know and I love the
10:20 fact that when we are aware of the fact that before 28 or you know from 28 to 30
10:27 we really are growing and learning we’re really not adults as in ready to move to
10:34 the next phase of our life well before the a that before that age we’re
10:39 actually really experiencing and this emotional pattern so we’re really in
10:44 reaction to this emotional pattern so from 0 to 9 it’s set up and then from 9
10:50 years old to sort of roughly around 27 which is our third cycle yes you know
10:56 we’re really experienced and experiencing what does that mean so
11:00 we’re trying to find ourselves yes so when we get to there when we get to that
11:04 age when then ready to go we’ll hang on a minute everything that I’ve learned
11:08 and being programmed into and being reacting to may not be Who I am yes so
11:15 then where so then we spend the rest of our life
11:18 unlearning that and getting back to who we who we truly are and unfortunately
11:23 some people never unlearn those early habits no and we’ve got to look at the
11:28 older generations for that you know back in their days and we’ve got to have a
11:33 bit of compassion and empathy for them you know back in the days it was it’s
11:37 very controlled and it was very you are like this you you just repeat the family
11:42 pattern yeah and which gets handed down and there wasn’t a lot of counseling
11:47 they worked this work was definitely not out in the open for us to you know there
11:52 just wasn’t the opportunity for the older generations to connect to who they
11:56 really are so a lot easier and touring home and their beliefs I didn’t catch
12:03 you then sorry and and for them to question their beliefs that’s right
12:07 exactly like you know you it was more about survival
12:10 hmm whereas these days you know we’ve got we’ve got we can do everything by
12:16 video we there’s a lot more support and there’s a lot more understanding and a
12:20 lot more connectedness as well yes and I totally agree and I must admit even
12:27 though I was like in my Groundhog Day daze as I like to call it when I was a
12:31 corporate CFO I always had this little spiritual side to me that always was
12:37 going surely there must be an easier way surely there must be a better way surely
12:42 there must be why is it such a struggle for everyone why is everyone in survival
12:48 why can’t we thrive easily you know sort of thing well I described it and I
12:54 described this in my book the lessons of love and life that well there are two
12:58 really distinct sides to self so we have our physical self which is what we’re
13:04 here just to experience in this lifetime and then of course we have our spirit
13:08 self and the spirits always going to be delegated to the background because the
13:13 physical self is is forefront it’s it’s who we are
13:16 but in that physical self we’ve got an ego yes and that is the part that we you
13:23 know with through the intellectual mind the overthinking and all of that that
13:26 keeps us stuck in these patterns but we now are now learning to bring
13:32 these two sides together now we’re certainly not meant to be one more one
13:36 side than the other we’re meant to be bringing them together so once you can
13:40 sort of use them and understand them for how they actually work within you you’re
13:46 going to be more able to connect to that inner self and have that you know that
13:52 internal direction that we that is always there it’s always there Karen
13:57 it’s always like a little voice that sits in the background but just people
14:01 don’t realize because this other side of self is a little bit too strong and is
14:05 drowning it out yes so it’s a little bit like Jiminy Cricket in Pinocchio always
14:11 sitting on your shoulder sort of being there and guiding you and I love the
14:16 fact that you said that it’s about us bringing two of them together as opposed
14:21 to a lot of people go or you have to shut down the ego you have to shut down
14:24 the ego to self-actualize but that’s not right no we good luck to
14:29 those who can ever free themselves of their ego I really I certainly haven’t
14:34 found that that in any of my clients or of or myself yet we certainly contain
14:40 the ego and understand it yes but we you know it’s a program it’s a program that
14:45 you’ve had from birth we don’t come into the earth plane with an ego we it’s learnt
14:51 your ego is what you’ve learnt from them you know you look at little children
14:56 they’re totally connected to their spirits yes but it is in from the moment
15:00 that they get here we start to learn they that’s what the ego is all about
15:04 and that’s what the the lessons are all about we develop this ego through what
15:09 we experience and learn and program into through our parents our society our
15:16 culture so you know I don’t believe that we can ever get rid of our ego but we
15:21 can certainly learn to love it understand it and not be reactive to it
15:28 yes drive our light more from the internal yes and I love that and it
15:32 really is about understanding how to be humble and bringing humility and
15:37 gratitude into your life and that seems to quieten the ego a fair bit because
15:43 huh be in your ego and humble at the same time can you not really no I don’t
15:50 believe so like when you’re when you you actually
15:53 let go of the need to judge yes and the need to self promote yeah absolutely when you let
16:03 go of that it’s so peaceful you don’t have that it just brings that is exactly
16:10 what brings the inner peace to you because you’re not trying to fight the
16:15 outside world you’re actually quite comfortable and confident from within I
16:19 love that and that’s like when I was in my CFO role seriously I was
16:24 always angry and always forcing my opinion on people and it’s absolutely
16:30 ridiculous because there’s a million infinite number of ways a million
16:36 infinit an infinite number of ways to do anything and to look at anything and
16:42 to and it’s just about a matter of allowing people to be who they are
16:47 absolutely we all have different spiritual profiles we all have different
16:52 ways which is the exact way that we’re going to perceive the world so in the
16:57 way I teach is there’s no point in judging and criticizing another because
17:03 they’ve not been brought up your way they’ve not had your emotional
17:08 experiences and therefore they can’t see it your way and actually when you really
17:14 get down into the nitty-gritty of this Karen when you point the finger at
17:18 someone else yes there is three pointing back at you I
17:23 love that fact that awareness yep and so when we’re criticizing someone else
17:28 there’s a part of us we’re criticizing as well yeah so you know in spiritual
17:32 profiling we get you to look at that and that’s not initially that’s not an easy
17:38 concept to understand like if there is someone who really doesn’t know you and
17:42 their traits are just like so against who you are so against who you feel your
17:48 values are and everything it is an interesting concept to go now wait a
17:52 minute all of those traits are inside me
17:56 maybe in my shadow side or there may be things that I’ve been in earlier life’s
18:00 and I’ve and earlier in my life and I have changed them but the fact that you
18:05 they are still annoying you you haven’t really healed it that’s absolutely
18:10 correct and I in in my book I use one that will push people’s buttons in
18:15 itself it’s um I use the example of a pedophile you know most people have the
18:22 the judgment that they are just you know disgusting human beings who take
18:28 advantage of children so then I look at different ways of why that you know
18:32 because for some people they can look at a pedophile and not have an emotional
18:35 reaction but say for someone who has a really intense emotional reaction
18:42 towards one you would you know it doesn’t necessarily mean that that they
18:46 are a pedophile for sure that’s not where I’m going here it means that there
18:52 is something within them that that is reflecting that pedophile is reflecting
18:57 at them so what could that be you know it could be just that they’re letting
19:02 themselves down and letting themselves be taken advantage of mm-hmm so
19:06 therefore that that energy will reflect that in them so it’s not necessarily
19:13 about the other person yes it’s about the emotional reflection
19:18 that’s in that that comes up from that that is pushing our buttons yes okay and
19:24 that is a it that is an example that would push most people’s button
19:28 absolutely and I do explain it a lot better than that in my book I’m sure you do
19:33 no as I understand exactly what you were saying then and that is not
19:37 accepting that I just want to just just to interact on that that is that we are
19:42 not here to accept bad behavior so I’m in no way saying that that is right or
19:46 wrong I’m just saying that you know because bad behavior is bad behavior it
19:50 still needs to be dealt with I’m just looking purely at the
19:54 reflection within ourselves that can create an over-the-top emotional
19:59 reaction yes and I totally understand that and so my next thing is and I and
20:06 and on on the pages all your contact details and and everything but more
20:11 importantly there’s a you’ve you’ve given us a great personal profile of you
20:16 as at a younger age and all the different roles that you can play have
20:20 played from an expertise point of view and I love the fact I can so see you as
20:26 an aerobic instructor I can so see you as that and and and all of that but more
20:34 importantly I want to talk about the whale watching experience that you had
20:39 and not only from a physical point of view but also it was also from a
20:44 spiritual point of view how did that affect you and help to create who you
20:49 are today that was probably one of the best jobs I’ve ever had I have other
20:55 than this one of course yeah I absolutely love that going out on the
20:59 whale watching boat and you know getting to see the whales and that mostly
21:04 sometimes we didn’t see it and this was when I was in Coffs Harbour and I do
21:08 believe the whale watching boat is still going it was called the Pacific explorer
21:11 okay it actually helped me Karen in those days that was actually what helped
21:17 me start to reconnect to people as well because I had to talk to people I had to
21:22 tell them you know and really start to build my confidence in you know being
21:29 having an expert opinion about whales and stuff like that so it really did
21:35 help me grow and build my confidence but as spiritually it was just one of the
21:41 best who you cannot balance when they’re out on a boat I love boats even
21:45 today any chance I can get to get out on a boat oh yeah yeah anywhere around
21:50 water I agree but did you talk to the whales I didn’t you don’t really get a
21:56 chance because I was being a hostess okay did you have one opportunity that
22:01 jumps out at me was what I wanted to do was to swim with the whales oh my god I
22:06 didn’t know you could swim with the whales well you you can’t if you’re swimming
22:10 around the boat and they come up to you that’s okay
22:13 I just didn’t in all my time there was one chance that I had to get to get in
22:18 the water and because the boat the the whales were actually interacting with
22:22 the boat I don’t think it was something you
22:24 really allowed to do but you know that was one of the things I’ve wanted to do
22:27 so I was about to jump in the water and the skipper said I I don’t think you
22:33 better because there is there is the fisheries boat is coming towards us so it’s
22:38 just not you just not allowed to and I was really disappointed because I
22:42 I got my camera there and I had an underwater camera so I got a few shots
22:45 of the whales underwater but I didn’t get to swim with them and I thought that
22:48 would have been just yeah that would have been the icing on the cake ah I can
22:53 totally imagine that because everyone just loves anything to do with whales or
22:58 dolphins and they especially dolphins they seem to just be full of like
23:02 oxytocin which is you know you feel good hormone your bonding hormone and it’s
23:08 and it’s they’re just amazing creatures aren’t they and we’re so great to have them on our earth absolutely
23:14 and I’ve just completed one of my bucket list was a dive course I’ve got my Paddi
23:20 license now so yes I’m hoping to do a lot more in my free time getting out and
23:26 doing a lot more in the ocean because I just love it oh wow and of course we’re
23:31 fast running out of time as always I always go over but it’s such delicious
23:37 conversations so what is the main thing that you want our viewers to take away
23:42 from this conversation that we’re all everyone here Karen is on a path to
23:49 self-discovery and that’s what I believe that we’re here for and your happiness
23:54 it’s not going to be found outside of you or through others it will be found
23:59 from you going within understanding who you are and awakening to your spirit and
24:06:00 that’s you know and with all everyone that I’ve helped and my own life that is
24:12:00 the only that’s where we find our inner peace and our happiness I totally agree
24:16:00 and that’s why I love talking to you because obviously you are all about all
24:22:00 about you which is our first pillar but through that you have created by
24:28:00 following your true you you have created your business doing your passion you are
24:33:00 creating obviously your wealth through doing it
24:36:00 and you’re forming these amazing relationships with not only all of your
24:41:00 your clients but also as you’re travelling around Australia sharing this
24:47:00 message you’re also building new relationships with people who you may
24:52:00 never have interacted with if you had not decided on this path absolutely and
24:58:00 just for your viewers – I am actually travelling around on my become more
25:05:00 happy and internally guided tour and it’s been amazing it really really has
25:11:00 and just even you know whether I’m working with my clients or just parked
25:16:00 on on in a camp somewhere and the people around you’re always meeting inspiring
25:22:00 and beautiful people and that you know Karen there is just some truly
25:26:00 amazing people doing some amazing things and we we don’t even know about it
25:30:00 yes it’s yeah just your average everyday local heroes I’m meeting them more and
25:35:00 more and they inspire me for what they do in their communities maybe that
25:40:00 should be a show that you start even if its 5 minutes with you and locals I’ve done a few I’ve interviewed a
25:47:00 few and I’ve put them on my You Tube channel
25:49:00 yeah I hope to definitely do more than that it’s just a time thing at the
25:53:00 moment but yeah I have actually got a few interviews on my youtube channel
25:57:00 yes I don’t blame you they’re local heroes because they are amazing yeah so as we
26:02:00 said all of your contact details are below and I believe you have a free gift
26:06:00 for our viewers which they can also access below this video so what’s that
26:12:00 Julie so that’s a little e book and it’s an introduction to how this all works so
26:18:00 an introduction to the lessons of love and life and if you if you read that and
26:24:00 you love that you will love what I do so it helps you connect and
26:29:00 understand how that bigger picture works that’s what the ebooks all about I’m
26:33:00 sure they will love it and I’m sure they will can connect with you for more
26:37:00 details but more importantly it really is about you connecting to who you are
26:41:00 so that you can live and love your life because without that connection you’re
26:46:00 not really going to experience this lifetime to the best of your
26:52:00 ability because you will be stuck in the ego and you will be stuck in survival
26:57:00 and let’s face it are we all here to thrive absolutely yeah absolutely and
27:02:00 we’ll be stuck in repeating those same issues over and over again and that’s
27:07:00 what ends when you start to connect to yourself because you start to drive your
27:11:00 own life your own happiness and your own destiny yeah well thank you julie for
27:18:00 being as i said the most amazing guest i love the fact that you’re a spiritual
27:23:00 profiler i love the way you have that actual word spiritual in what you do
27:29:00 because a lot of people think it’s WO WO but do you know what it’s only because
27:33:00 they haven’t connected to who they are that’s very true and thank you so much
27:38:00 for having me Karen it’s been an absolute pleasure to connect with you as
27:42:00 well I know we could talk forever I know we could couldn’t we
27:47:00 thanks a lot and thank you everybody for another episode of live love by design
27:53:00 I’ll see you on another episode real soon and that has been another episode
28:00:00 of live love by design TV wasn’t Julie just the most amazing guest I love the
28:06:00 fact when I have guests who can help us in any area that comes under the all
28:12:00 about you pillar because once you do understand who you are you truly can
28:19:00 create a life where you live and love each and every day where you love who
28:25:00 you are you love your life and you create your dreams faster so thanks for
28:31:00 being here again and I look forward to sharing with you very soon another
28:38:00 episode of live love by design TV be well unto them and make sure you spend
28:46:00 some time looking after the most important friend in your life YOU bye